well this is refreshing.
good to see interest has faded for his fear-mongering, hate-filled conspiracy rants.. .
glenn becks fox show droppedby david bauder ap television writer apr 6, 2011 2:30pm.
I was a bit of a fan at one point [though not rabid about it] - but he increasingly sounds like a doomsday preacher to me and I hear enough of that shit without listening to him. I typically make 5 minutes on his radio program before I turn it off.
BTW - I am moderately conservative in most respects, but this guy is out of control IMO. I get tired of hearing his Mormon theology recycled as conservatism.
Jeff
i hail from about 30 miles n of fort wayne.. the complexion of this forum is always changing and i have been around here less and less in the past couple years.
roll call?.
namaste.
i'm a loner.. offline, i have few friends.
the friends i do have are dear to me but i'm bad at communicating with them, meaning i don't call often.
facebook has been a boom with me cuz i can keep contact with folks i really care about without being constantly in contact with them which would drive me crazy.. on this board i haven't got too deep with folks.
Looks like a big crowd chiming in with the same situation, eh?
I am much the same, and I attribute it to a couple of things:
To some extent, I credit my introverted nature to saving me from the cult eventually. I had enough time to myself to actually examine the matter carefully once I got the courage. And I didn't say a word to anyone before I knew the 'truth about the truth', which aided me to exit as an informed person.
I am fiercely loyal to those I consider my friends. I have a lot of FB 'friends' but only know perhaps a couple dozen of them face to face. And the majority of those are relatives.
I like being alone for the most part. Plus I am super-busy raising my grandkids, and that is pretty full-time.
It is what it is.
Jeff
i hail from about 30 miles n of fort wayne.. the complexion of this forum is always changing and i have been around here less and less in the past couple years.
roll call?.
namaste.
I hail from about 30 miles N of Fort Wayne.
The complexion of this forum is always changing and I have been around here less and less in the past couple years. Roll Call?
Namaste
Jeff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iaglg45lac.
glenn beck - "god punished japan with earthquake, tsunami".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1dxldfxiwu&feature=related.
I know.
I have some Lutheran friends, very religious. The other morning at coffee [my friend is the barista and her husband often joins me for coffee] they were both sounding off about how the 'end is very close', they then started speaking about the 'rapture' and how it was close. I took it to mean that they view them as one and the same, or at least related closely. She said that her pastor had just told them that Sunday that all the prophecies/signs regarding Israel were now complete - in other words the end could now come because it was all fulfilled.
I asked her then a simple question: "What particular prophecies did he discuss? And how were they all complete?" She stuttered that she was unable to recite them, but he had assured them that it was all but over now.
They began to relate all the serious 'signs' - Japan's earthquake disaster, Libya, uprisings in the middle-east, so forth. They spoke about how things have never been so bad in history. [At this point I was almost nauseated as it sounded just like regurgitated Jw-speak to me.] I asked them how this could be the 'worse period of human history'? I spoke of World War in Europe and the destruction of the Jews. Also mentioned the period of time when most of Europe and Asia were decimated by Plague and said that surely those people must have thought the same thing when they saw fully one third of the entire populace dying in the streets. And then spoke of how people believed similar things throughout history - and yet it was not the end then, why would it be now?
I think they actually got mad at me, steaming under their vague attempts to justify their fears/hopes.
Later that day I heard several talk show hosts spouting similar nonsense, including Beck.
These people have no other hope. They just live so that they can be saved, protected, raptured. How sad. Life wasted. Not much difference between them and Jw's. Same song, different verse [but so very similar].
Namaste
Jeff
iam just sounding aloud hi or hello to you all.
you are all great newbies and oldies.
bests,.
Hi!
it was very interesting.... of course, the first thing i noticed was the building.
very different from a "kingdom hall" - this catholic church is in an extremely modern, six-sided building.
as one enters the building, their "holy water" font - fountain(???
Sounds interesting. I avoid religion these days, but have considered popping into the local Catholic Church sometime to observe a Mass.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Jeff
i became a christain at the age of 9. not by going to a church or asking a preacher to baptize me, or anything like that.
i started reading my mother's king james bible cover to cover at the age of 8. my father was very abusive and when he was abusing me, i would close my eyes and pray.
i never hated my father, which is one good thing i got out of prayer.. when i turned 13 i became a lay preacher and traveled, on my own, preaching in any church that would let me.. when i was 15 i studied with the jws and was baptized after four months of study.. i was a zealous christain but not a zealous jw, according to them.
The OT also gives a reason that the nations were being driven out, and it wasn't because the land was promised to the Israelites.
Oh, come on!
There are dozens of Bible passages that show God telling the Jews to go kill off other nations to take the land.
It was because of the despicable things that those nations were doing first.
And killing off millions of people to steal the land is NOT DESPICABLE? OMG, what sort of twisted mind could make such an idiot statement and believe it?
The land wasn't 'given' to the Israelites before then. I can draw on other sources to show that these nations committed such things as human/child sacrifice.
Yep. Just like the Israelites did when they killed off all the people. Or the laws that commanded the Jews to kill children who sassed a parent or a young wife to be stoned if her hymen was not intact on the wedding night, or the killing of a man for having intercourse with a woman while at the same time his God was approving of his raping, pillaging, and murder of old men and old women in villages along the route to the promised land.
WOW.
Jeff
i became a christain at the age of 9. not by going to a church or asking a preacher to baptize me, or anything like that.
i started reading my mother's king james bible cover to cover at the age of 8. my father was very abusive and when he was abusing me, i would close my eyes and pray.
i never hated my father, which is one good thing i got out of prayer.. when i turned 13 i became a lay preacher and traveled, on my own, preaching in any church that would let me.. when i was 15 i studied with the jws and was baptized after four months of study.. i was a zealous christain but not a zealous jw, according to them.
Well stated. Pretty well sums it up for the place I have landed also.
What I find interesting is that not only has the Christian religion proven short, so has the Christian culture in so many ways. I am far more attracted to Eastern culture in many ways, though it's reliance on so much religiosity and superstition is also unpalatable to me.
Jeff
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/aleqm5hdyel48clnmvdfdyyxc-tirraofg?docid=b17527021300652129a00.
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